"mcseanerson" (mcseanerson)
10/24/2014 at 09:18 • Filed to: None
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That's 87 octane at 2.82 a gallon and diesel is $3.69 a gallon.
RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht
> mcseanerson
10/24/2014 at 09:20 |
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It sure is a good thing that you can buy all the gas you'll ever need, even retroactively, right now. Yessir, mighty fine.
Cé hé sin
> mcseanerson
10/24/2014 at 09:24 |
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It will if you live somewhere diesel is €1.40 per litre and petrol is €1.50 and if used buyers continue to pay more for a diesel. Otherwise, not so much.
FJ80WaitinForaLSV8
> mcseanerson
10/24/2014 at 09:29 |
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and it has a $1,300 price premium.
Drakkon- Most Glorious and Upright Person of Genius
> mcseanerson
10/24/2014 at 09:30 |
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A few things are conspiring to make gas especially cheap right now.
Production is up so prices are down. I think global markets, whether a conspiracy or not would like to keep dollars out of the hands of Russia and ISIS so that may be a part.
Also, in large parts of the country, they use a 'summer blend' formulation of gas to reduce smog in the heat. About this time of year, they stop making summer blend so again prices drop.
Gas and Diesel have been close in price for the last several months so you would have been ahead. Now gas is dropping and to make it worse, in the winter month, refineries switch to making heating oil and the tech for oil and Diesel compete for space. You can only wring so much out of a barrel.
You will buy few gallons than us petro burners, but whether or not you spend fewer dollars is out of your control.
spanfucker retire bitch
> mcseanerson
10/24/2014 at 09:35 |
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At those prices you flat out won't. Those that love espousing the benefits of Diesel live somewhere where Diesel actually costs less than gasoline, or is taxed less like in Europe.
Phyrxes once again has a wagon!
> mcseanerson
10/24/2014 at 09:36 |
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For where you live it sounds like it won't and part of that is to how the locality you live in taxes diesel different from gas. If you look through OPPO you can find the map someone posted of the diesel taxes by states. Some states are diesel friendly where their diesel tax is similar to the gas tax so the prices are comparable. Some states are a bit less friendly where diesel has a slightly higher tax rate that puts diesel just above premium gas. While other states are downright unfriendly and have a significant tax difference.
It also has to do with how you drive the car, city vs. highway vs. mixed. At constant highway speeds diesel fuel economy really shines, in city or mixed use it is similar to gas. My JSW TDI gets 36-38 MPG mixed use that favors highway as my commute is at highway speed but when the Mrs. and I took it to the beach this past summer I was getting 50-51 MPG cruising down I-95 at 70 MPH.
Edit: In the year I've had mine I've noticed the diesel prices fluctuate a lot less than gas. The Sheetz I drove past this morning has gas down to $2.759, Midgrade was $2.959, Premium was $3.259 and Diesel is still up at $3.559.
KusabiSensei - Captain of the Toronto Maple Leafs
> mcseanerson
10/24/2014 at 09:41 |
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Right, because gasoline will always be $2.82 a gallon for regular, and diesel will always be $3.69/gallon.
backRoads
> mcseanerson
10/24/2014 at 09:56 |
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Buy a new TDI and keep it for two years and barely take it on the highway, and you will not have a good time.
Buy a used TDI and keep it for a loooong time and drive it long distances, and when the odo hits 300k and your biggest concern is that the steering wheel is almost worn through and the seat foam is sticking out, you will have long since understood.
Mercedes Streeter
> mcseanerson
10/24/2014 at 10:39 |
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Where I live, Diesel usually gets about as high as the same price as Premium. Then a few times a year Diesel can be had for cheaper than Regular...Oh Illinois...
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mcseanerson
> Phyrxes once again has a wagon!
10/24/2014 at 10:52 |
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I understand that and I completely agree with people who have the right usage scenario that diesel is absolutely the right choice for them. Still some of these people are so sure that diesel is the best option for highway driving they'll tell me that a Golf TDI would be a better choice than a Fiesta Ecoboost even with these prices. Personally I've always felt my two best eco options in my scenario is either a Fiesta Ecoboost or a Chevy Volt.
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Phyrxes once again has a wagon!
> mcseanerson
10/24/2014 at 11:14 |
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So what is your usage scenario? If you got the Volt would it be primarily electric mode for day to day use and not really use gas? Don't forget the impact the volt or any plugin would have on your electric bill, and if you are seriously considering one call your utility and talk to them about it. The utility around here will cut you a break on charging at off peak hours.
GTI Sprinks
> mcseanerson
10/24/2014 at 11:24 |
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87 octane? But whyyyyy
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mcseanerson
> Phyrxes once again has a wagon!
10/24/2014 at 12:10 |
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I'm not actually looking at a Volt but if I did more dense city driving I'd consider one. Really a Fiesta Ecoboost is the most ideal for me. Rural small town far from everything and what little city driving I do is not that dense.
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mcseanerson
> GTI Sprinks
10/24/2014 at 12:11 |
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Why not? I don't need premium.
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Phyrxes once again has a wagon!
> mcseanerson
10/24/2014 at 12:29 |
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That makes total sense to me.
Cody Spradlin
> mcseanerson
10/24/2014 at 13:14 |
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Where I live, diesel is less than premium. Probably about to float up again due to heating oil, but it's been pretty consistently less. Question from me, do ALL Golfs recommend premium, or only the GTI?
Too many M's
> mcseanerson
10/24/2014 at 14:12 |
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New vs new, the savings are close becoming non-existent. Also with newer gas options giving close to diesel output in terms if MPG the argument gets even more difficult. If you can find a deal on the TDI though it might be worth it.
Don't forget the lifeless driving pleasure on those, only the low end torque to have fun with. No top end to speak of for a back roads run.
Denver Is Stuck In The 90s
> mcseanerson
10/24/2014 at 14:14 |
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Whats 99 cents a gallon? Natural gas maybe?
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mcseanerson
> Denver Is Stuck In The 90s
10/24/2014 at 14:17 |
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It's either Icees or Coffee.
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Denver Is Stuck In The 90s
> mcseanerson
10/24/2014 at 14:20 |
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How cool would it be if a car could run off of coffee?
cayman2007
> mcseanerson
10/24/2014 at 15:15 |
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Well, diesel typically does cost more in the U.S., it really shouldn't as it is cheaper (less refined) than gasoline. Everywhere else in the world diesel is cheaper...go figure. Gas will go up again and diesel will remain where it is, quite often equivalent to 93 octane gasoline.
TDI's hold their value very well so when it's time to sell you'll get a premium for it. If you choose to hold on to it, diesel engines are well known for running a long long time. A cab driver in Athens told me his diesel ran for a little over 1 million kilometers before he had to swap out the engine.
Diesel=torque so they're fun to drive
I hate stopping to fill up, getting over 600 miles to a tank is great
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mcseanerson
> cayman2007
10/24/2014 at 16:33 |
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The thing about diesels is they are built similar to modern direct injection turbo charged engines so the durability is probably a wash but we don't have a ton of history with these modern engines to be sure yet. If you want something for a million kilometers you shouldn't be worried about resale value anyways. Where I live diesel is typically a good 20-30 cents premium over 93 octane minimum.
My whole argument is and always has been there is no one perfect method for saving on fuel or overall ownership costs. Obviously in Europe where petrol costs more than diesel it makes perfect sense to get a diesel if you're trying to save money. In California where they're in love with EVs a Tesla makes a lot of sense. If you live in a dense city with lots of traffic that isn't still very EV friendly a Volt might be a better idea.
In my situation the best car for overall ownership costs would probably be a Fiesta Ecoboost. I live in a small town with limited traffic and am 50 miles from the closest Interstate.